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Chris Manning

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Wondering what Riverwatch rods you guys are using? I'm looking at something around 12', around 6/7 weight but not sure regarding 5 or 6 sided. Any info appreciated!
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I think the 5 sided is snappier or a bit faster if you will. I have an 11' 5 sided 6/7 which casts about a 420 scandi nicely. The 420 scandi is the same size as I use on the 12' 6 sided rod. 

Either way they are awesome sticks.

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There's a brand new 13' 7wt for sale on speypages right now.  I'm not affliated at all.
Chris Manning

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Poppy, do you find 11' to be an adequate length for a bamboo rod? What kind of reel are you using on it? I've got a Loop 8/11 around 15 ounces I was thinking of using for a 12'er
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Hey Chris, I had similar questions in my search. Bob says his rods feel a foot longer then they really are. So, an 11' cane is more like a 12'graphite in hand. If you plan on lifting heavier heads and bigger flies then maybe a 6 sider. If your more into scandi's and poly's then the 5 is bit faster. I ended up deciding on a 12' 7/8 penta that seems to like 450grain scandi. I'm still feeling it out but am blown away at how much I enjoy fishing the rod. Good luck on your decision, I'm sure you won't be disappointed with what ever your choose.


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Hi, Chris.  I have a number of J S Sharpe cane rods from 11' to 14', so my suggestions will be more general than specific to your questions about  your intended Riverwatch.  Choose the rod to suit how and where you fish.  The length...11' or 12'...isn't as important as the action of the rod.  And as far as the reel you have, it is quite heavy for an 8-11 reel, which may be a good thing.  My rods are quite a bit heavier than the Riverwatch rods.  Mine are solid rather than hollow-built and impregnated as well.  I have found that my 11' rods take about 13 or 14 ounces to achieve a balance point at the Scottie Dog, just up from the end of the front cork. The 12' rods like 16 to 18 ounces.  So your Loop should at least balance any rod from Bob Clay into the cork grip.  Don't be too attached to your reel...changing it out to achieve balance isn't a big issue.  Lots of nice reels out there!  Cheers, Graham
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Originally I didn't care very much for the 11' length but I have now changed my mind and like that length a lot. On the 11 footer I'm using a Bogdan 3.75" or my Olson G&P 3.75". My Olson weighs about 10oz empty.
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Chris,
I too have the 11' for 6/7 from Bob.  As Poppy says the 420 Scandi is a good match and you will be very happy with how it handles.  I used too light a reel on it initially but now see the light and using one about 11 ounces and it balances it out fine.  I just emailed Steve Godshall to have him make up a custom line for the rod and we'll see how it works out.  I can tell you that they are powerful in that I landed a 40" fish on it on the Babine two years ago and was surprised to have been able to get that thing in.  I will say that without Darren Wright's help on the net it wouldn't have happened but the rod was incredible.
I initially thought that 11' might be too short but if you balance it up with the right line and reel weight you'll have a gem.  It's got soul.  The love and care Bob puts into these rods amounts to great mojo right off the bench.
Good luck
Loren 
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I just came back from the Smithers/Terrace area after swinging for 12 days (Dissappointinf "Catching" year)--I stayed with a friend who also lives on the Kispiox, and spent the better part of the day visiting with Bob, and casting many rods.---For me, I liked the 11ft 5/6 weight. Penta ---it will mainly be used as a "micro-Spey" Trout rod swinging here in Colorado, and "Mouseing Etc" in Alaska.---Should also work well in the PNW for small to Med sized Steel.--Bob really likes his 5/6, and actually fishes it on the Kispiox where he lives and has his shop overlooking the beautiful Kispiox River.---Bob is currently about 10 months out on builds, so I hope th have my rod by mid-summer 2016, in time for my Alaska trout & Coho trip on the Kanektok in August.

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Well it's been a while since my post about ordering a Clay 11' 5/6, and things have changed.---I just purchased a 2 year old Riverwatch 11' 5/6 HEX that came up on SpeyPages (LUCKY ME)---It has the graphite ferrules.
I spent the afternoon yesterday casting,,and found that Bob's recommendation of a 360 SCANDI was perfect.
I asked Bob about Shorter Skagit options to use in tight quarters like Haida Gwaii, and his comment was "if you go with a SKAGIT, go SMALLER. ---Graphite you go BIGGER, bamboo SMALLER"--????
Coming from the graphite world where changing from Scandi lines to Skagit, one usually goes UP in grain weight i.e.: 360 Scandi, to possibly 425- 450 Skagit.-----All this sounds counterintuitive, and I'm a a bit confused!----Any thoughts or theories from the "peanut gallery" out there about this topic?
I'm new to the Bamboo SPEY world, and have lots to learn,.---Proper care, maintenance, lining, storage, and safely landing larger fish when fishing alone.---It's a real pleasure swinging with a hand-made tool like Bob's, and I appreciate the time consuming craftsmanship which goes into his beautiful rods.---I still have my original deposit with Bob from last fall, and am in his que for delivery of ???sometime next summer.----I'll,most likely go with a 11' 6/7 model, but I have enough time to evaluate that decision.

Beatle
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If Bob Clay says to go smaller that is certainly what I would do, at least until I'd convinced myself otherwise with much trial and error on the water.
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Poppy, ---What options are out there for shorter Skagit lines less than 360g?---I know that OPST has lines with less grain weights, however I have no idea if this is the answer for Skagit work with my Riverwatch 11' 5/6?------It's all guesswork until there is way for pilgrims like me to actually TEST cast various lines and weights.

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Beatle
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Maybe look into Nextcast multidensity heads, the zone and costal heads (trout line up) they start @ 330 grains I think...and their short heads. I have a Salar Finder and enjoy casting it and it'll handle some good sized pieces of fur and tips.
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I believe Rio short Max skagit heads come that light.
Hope that helps.
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275 Commando head should work just fine.
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