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Leo DeBruin

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My fishing partner is the toughest guy I know on Rods.  He has broken 2 rods this year already, 2 last fall. I don't know for what reason they seem to break but it seems to be an ongoing problem. So my question is what is the toughest rod out there? Toughest meaning unbreakable.   He generally fishes with a skagit line but is making the conversion to a Rage.

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Not sure you're going to find an unbreakable rod.  What's the reason for the breakage...fall, car door, loose ferrules?  Will help with answers to your question.
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Brian  - Last 3 rod breaks have been while fishing, last night's break(  low middle section) was while casting, earlier break this year was while landing a fish(Tip), last fall (upper middle section) was while casting.  These are basically reasonable rods - Z-axis, TFO.

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I think I still have an old (Circa 1970) 8 ft solid glass pier rod in the garage that might do the trick.............

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Four roods in two years! I don't' think that is the roods, Moore likely how he cast and landing the fish.
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Leo,

I'm at a loss.  Certainly not a pattern of any sort.  Maybe loose ferrules on the breaks while casting?  I had a rod break both mid sections last fall while casting (still not sure what I did, but I'm gonna assume me versus the rod).  I'd also agree that it's not the rods with your buddy.  Old Sage brownie's take a beating, but I think he's still gonna break 'em based on your description.
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If he is hitting `air` instead of pulling against the line i.e. has a certain amount of slack in the line and hits it on the forward cast this will break many rods no matter how tough.  Another thing is if he is using flies with metal eyes of some sort and hitting the  blank and breaking later on down the line.
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What Bruce said.  Fly strikes was the first thing that came to mind.  I've seen those hold on for quite a while before letting go...........it's also the reason you won't see any external metal on any of my flies.  Have a friend who went down to Argentina and broke 4 rods in two days casting in the wind with tungsten bead headed flies.  Kind of ruined the trip as he broke everyone's backup rods........including the guides!
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how about an echo TR? If he breaks that then maybe try a willow branch.
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When I was a Kid growing up my Dad had a couple of steel casting rods. I don't ever remember breaking any of those. Something like that may work, but Bruce may be on the right track with the thought that your friend may be hitting the rod with weighted flies at some point in time.
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There is no one better then the other toughest rod. They will all break.




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some info to help ascertain cause

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Spliced Joint Cane,you can nick them (as long as it's not with an ax)  and they survive, also you won't snap the rod because of a loose ferrule 
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I would like to add my two cents (Canadian) on this topic.  I have a son-in-law...SIL...who can accidentally break hockey pucks.  A few years ago he expressed admiration for one of my old (30 years plus) garden tools, so I bought him one.  It lasted 2 days.  So when he asked me to take him fly fishing, I thought about the projected life-span of the fly tackle (mine) he was going to be using.  All my stuff is old...Hardy reels, Sage rods from the early 80s, split cane two-handers from the 50s and 60s, and I cringed.  I bought him some Redington Crosswater outfits, rods and reels, in pairs in case of a breakage so that our fishing time would be uninterrupted.  Perfect. He dropped the rods reel-first onto the rocks when he landed a fish, stood on the rod tips while releasing his catch, tossed his outfits into the back of his truck, closed a door on the rod butt, tripped in the woods on our walks to the next run, and so on.  Not a ballerina.   Nightmare quality experiences.  The rod sections matched, so a broken tip or a crushed section was easily replaced, and when the reel broke I repaired it with Super glue. In the off season I store his gear and order next year's duplicates.  Worth every penny!  Trying to find gear tougher than my SIL would be a fool's errand.
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