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Larry Aiuppy

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Thank you, Ken.
Paul Metcalf

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you crack me up Rick!  looks like that blind squirrel found at least 2 acorns!
Brian Colin

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Well you have covered pretty well everything.   Here in the UK some waters are slightly overcrowded.   Then the 'MeMe' type of person comes along - often with a spinning rod - and casts across the fly fisherman on the opposite bank, or fishing so close that he is interfering with the guy in front of him.   This is simply bad manners and lack of respect for the sport.   One of the very first things ANY fisherman must learn is how to behave himself and not be a bullyboy on the river.   The other thing I would say is imperative to learn is to move through your water at a respectable speed and not hog one place at the expense of other fishermen.   In our local salmon club which has a little good water, one member wades down stream with his fly some 30 yards in front of him guiding the swing from side to side.   He wades right over the main lies ruining the chances of anyone unfortunate to be behind him. He is a very pleasant guy, but if I see his car parked I go home without fishing!!
Poppy Cummins

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What's wrong with casting too far you Heathen :-D
Casting far is not a sin if the proper angles are used
Bruce Kruk 

No casting to far is not a sin but when one follows "Sonny" and his (in comparison) wee grass stick sometimes it seems casting far is a waste of time.

Poppy=Red Shed Spey Rod Pimp http://www.redshedflyshop.com FRSCA-Founding Member How you get the line out and fishing is personal preference so as long as it works and is easy no one should care but the caster. MSB

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We don't have any Steelhead here (unfortunately), but the biggest mistake any angler fishing for anadromous species can make is giving up or becoming dispondant too soon.

They were known as "the fish of a thousand casts" - & that was in the good old days! Now with reduced numbers / runs of fish it may take a lot more than this on some waters to achieve success.

I recently fished a new beat for salmon (a fishing association beat, not a private one, so there were a number of anglers & a degree of queuing waiting for your' turn to fish through the more popular pools - probably not unlike some of the more accessible Steelhead waters I would imagine), this was on a very large & powerful piece of water on the lower Tay.

It was a very different style of fishing to what I was used to, very hard work wading deep & throwing 12 weight, long, fast sinking shooting heads as far as possible on big 16 ft rods, & I was absolutely knackered at the end of each day. However I kept at it and caught 2 fish for my 6 days on the river (both chrome bright & sea liced as we were just above the tide); the last one was late on the last day of my trip.

Had I given up a little early then my catch would have been halved on that week. It wasn't a great return, but the fishing was hard & even the locals, who were really good at fishing this way (some were absolutely exceptional!) didn't catch much more - so I called the week a success where I learned a lot & next year will start at a higher level & hopefully progress a little higher along the learning curve.

Just remember, the damn things don't feed in fresh water, so any fish you get to take a fly is a success; any which hook up & stay attached coming to hand is a red letter day. Once you adjust the parameters of expectation & cease thinking of them as big brown or rainbow trout & realize that they are something transitory, elemental & more than a little magical, then you re-set the boundaries of what constitutes success & enjoy the journey.

Sometimes just being on the water is enough, it's kind of a Zen thing I suppose.....

Regards, Jon.

Erik Schirmer

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This has been a fun topic to read.  I've fly fished for 50 years and make all of those mistakes in not just one day but every day I fish.  But I have fun. I like Poppy's comment, so true. I am always getting distracted but I wouldn't have it any other way.  When single hand casting, I don't think about casting. I read the water , see where I think the fly needs to be and get it there.  Now that I am taking up two hand, the cast is a big distraction for me.  When I make a good cast some times I forget about the drift and lose control of the presentation.  Maybe I should just cast ugly and I might catch more fish.  A big part of fishing is looking away from the presentation and seeing whats around.  Leave that fly in the dangle for moment and look up to see the eagle circling above, the moose feeding in the willows, the beaver fixing it's damn, the osprey catching more fish than you and the otter bobbing up in the middle of the pool, all distractions to fishing yet that is fishing.  Two days ago I was fishing the Grand Ronde and while slowly walking to the next run I came face to face with a full curl ram 30 yards away.  What a sight, what a memory. That is fishing to me.     
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