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Dan Gillen

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To those of you who skate flies,
I'm hoping to find a few tips that will help me improve my skating techniques. I am using both 14 foot and a 12 foot rods with floating lines and floating leaders. If I keep my rod tip very high I can get my flies to skate at about 50 feet. I'm using a riffled hitch and heavy deer hair flies, even using some floatent, but I can't seem to create the V wake at distances over 70 feet. I am typically "old-school" so I refuse to use foam on my hooks. I would just like to be able to fish my casts at 70 to 90 feet and create a wake. I'm aware of current strengths and look for softer water to fish. What am I doing wrong? Comments and critiques are appreciated. HAPPY FISHING.
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If your fly is under tension it should be making a wake. Maybe at the greater distance your fly actually is waking but you are just not seeing the wake. 

I know with my little grass stick I am only throwing about 60' or so with a hitched GB Skunk as soon as it comes under tension I can see the wake.

Try casting more quartering down stream and see if that makes a difference.

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Thanks Poppy,
I'll keep my casts shorter and point downstream a little more.

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PS, Your right about the vision thing, I just hope I see the SPLASH!
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With a whopping 10 or 12 fish on top, I'm certainly no skating expert, but I agree with Poppy- it's not really distance fishing. 60/70 ft. max- better for keeping track of things.

I'm pretty relaxed about it. I don't care for chugging- pretty much harshes my mellow. Depending on current speed, I generally cast about 45 degrees down and across, aiming for good turnover. In my ideal world, she's skating as she lands. If it's slower water, I throw a gentle mend downstream.

I prefer a long mono leader- 18 ft or so- find it skates better for me than a poly. And if I really want to wake, i hitch straight off the bottom.

But I think plowing along at the surface and just under is as effective as the skater, just not quite as visual.

Most always a pared down muddler of sorts. First.jpg 

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A fly on the surface under tension wakes. Presentation as it swings dictates the amount of wake. I use a humpy size 6 or 4, no riffle hitch, in choppy water I see the fly but can't really see the wake beyond 60+ Feet, but have faith in the technique and presentation. A good test is flat water, mend down stream, bring the fly under tension, you will see it wake as it swings across the drift.Now repeat this process in choppy water and hold on :-)
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