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Jay Yockel

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Looking at the 811 from loop and the mark V 4" from saracione. Aside from the slight price difference any advantage or disadvantage or either? Any horror stories about drag seizing or anything falling apart?
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I have both, and both are quality reels.  The LOOP has a sealed drag made of some kind of high tech material, and seems very foolproof.  The Saracione I believe uses traditional cork, and I have heard of some issues with water penetrating the drag.  However Saracione has engineered a fix that covers that--he modified my older reel free of charge.

Build quality is great on both.  The Saracione is built like a tank, the LOOP feels lighter in hand.

I think if you ever decided to part with either, the Saracione would have better resale value--for some reason, perhaps because of it's Korean manufacture, the LOOP doesn't seem to fare as well in the aftermarket.  

Pick which one you like--I don't think you'll go wrong.

EDIT:  I note you referred to the Mark V.  My Saracione is a Mark IV.  I'm sure the quality is the same.  I believe on the Mark V the drag issue, such as it was, was addressed.

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I do not have a Loop so I can not talk about them But I do own a few Saracione Mark IV reels and build quality is superb, After sales service is excellent Joe is a very nice person. The new Mark V has been redesigned and has a sealed carbon fiber disc drag system so no more problems with the cork drag getting wet something I have not had a problem with on any of my Saracione's. I have no problem recommending these reels, Beautiful to look at easy to use, Brian
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I have a Loop Classic and have had no problems with it so far.
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The Saracione Salmon Mark V is sick. It's huge upgrade over the previous version, super light and tight. The body is sealed from foreign matter which should improve performance. On the water, the drag system has a sweet sounding clicker and dials in defined increments. Great reel; great craftsmanship. You'd be stoked to have this bad boy in your quiver.
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Craig Lannigan

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Both reels have become part of my collection. 
The only complaint of the Classic Loop reel is the small handle. I solved that by making hard plastic handles about the size of the ones on my Saraciones.
The Saracione Mark IV is a fantastic reel. The newer Mark V does have a sealed drag.
The only problem I know of with the Saracione Mark IV is mainly user error. If the drag gets wet and you tighten the drag and then leave it tight the cork does compress and next time you use it the drag becomes OFF/ON and might loose some of the variable it the degree of tightness.
I have personally been using the Mark IV reels for many years on Steelhead and Atlantic salmon and never ever had a problem with the drag. But then again, when wet I've always put the drag setting on "0" with little or no pressure on the drag and left it out a day or two to dry out.

This is the same issue with all my Abel reels that have a fantastic cork drag. You've got to reduce the pressure on the drag plate or it will compress the cork dry or wet. I've had to replace a handful of cork drags because I did not follow this advise. 

I have many years of experience with cork drag reel.

There may be others that have had issues with cork, but if you want to play you've got to pay!
Just my two bits worth here. 

Personally, I fish mostly the Saracione reels over the Loop. I also have the trout models which look outstanding on small bamboo rods at a small secret trout stream. DYNOMITE!   
James D Jones

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I own neither of these reels.

Both of these reels are top quality, in high demand, will give untold years of service and as expected, will cost you big bucks. Will your decendants appreciate owning one of them after you are gone? Anyone's guess on that one. Does it really matter?

The Loop is made in Sweden, by Danielson, in a land far away, across the pond, customs restrictions, language barrier, monetery exchange issues, all are to be expected if & when you have to deal with them. Saracione is made in the USA, by Joe Saracione himself. He speaks English very well, answers the phone, stands behind his work like the fine craftsman he is, proud to put his name on his work, his reputation on the line.
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Loop reels may be made in Sweden but they are distributed in the USA by Loop Tackle USA of Shelly, Idaho. These guys are a top notch outfit that takes care of their dealers and the dealer's customers. When buying any Loop product from a US dealer there are no customs charges and the Loop dealers I'very talked to so far (several) can speak English just fine.


As to Saracione reels the product is outstanding, but there are no longer any dealers so it's possible one may have to wait for certain models if there is a backlog. They're worth it.

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Ha ha, shows how much I know. Thanks Poppy.
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My Loop 58 Classic (solid face version from about 2 years ago) was assembled in S. Korea but it says "Designed in Sweden" on the back face.  And the Loop guys (and gals) all speak very good English and are a bunch of great folks (even that guy that hangs out with them sometimes -  what's his name?  Oh, yeah, the Klausinator! LOL)
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Loop reels haven't been made in Sweden since the split between Danielsson and Loop over a decade ago.  All their reels, rods too, are now made in South Korea.  Saracione reels are made in Oregon.  No inferences should be made regarding that other than my trying to have accurate information on the board.
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I do not or have not owned either reel. I own a Hardy Cascapedia MKII.
I recently had the opportunity to look at and handle both a Loop and a Saracione.
As far as I am concerned there is no comparison.
The look, feel and tolerances, let alone the sound is so superior in the Saracione
it's not even close. I actually feel that my Cascapedia is better than the Loop.
Now, for the sake of disclosure this assessment is only after picking both reels up and 
handling them I do not have any experience fishing them.
My $.02


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Oh and one more thing.

I definitely see a Saracione 3 3/4 in my future


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Duggan Harman

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I have owned multiples of both reels as well as the Cascapedia mentioned by the last poster. In my opinion the Saracione is twice the reel of the Loop.

I had a complete set of the original Loop Classics and fished them for a couple of years. The little one, 7-9 I think, never gave me any problems. The other two both had a habit of the clicker going silent on a hot running fish. The drag was still good, just the clicker. A good slap with the heal of your hand would usually cause it to engage again. Not a fatal flaw but a bit of a concern. No other problems with them but I never warmed to the aesthetics of them. They were silky smooth like the Evotechs but the metal handle always bothered me and the clicker, when it worked, was tinney instead of growley. I eventually sold all three.

My first Saracione was a 3 3/4 in gold and black. This reel still gets the majority of river time and has never let me down. It has a throaty growl, feels like a work of art and balances rods from 13 to 15 nicely. I liked it so much I picked up a 4" in black and silver for my 10 weight 15' and 16' 8 weight. It has the same silky smoothness but for some reason the clicker is less loud than its little brother.

My two cents. Duggan
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