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Erik Schirmer

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I've heard lots of talk about techniques on how to cast distance but I have not heard anything on starting a run. So far I just plop it out until I get enough line to start loading the rod so I can use spey techniques. Its kind of ugly.  There were numerous runs that I've recently fished where I start with purity much just the leader out. Is there something I am missing? I am fishing with a T&T 15' 9wt 3 piece rod (broom stick with a spaghetti noodle at the end) and Rio long spey.  At my current skill level I need about half the head (32' +-) out before I can start actual spey casting. Are there any techniques to cast long tapered lines when most of the weight is in the reel let alone the rod? 
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There is nothing wrong with your rod. I know that rod well. I suggest starting very short, like just the leader then adding a couple feet until you have the head out. A gentle wave of the rod should put the leader laid out on the water. It don't have to be pretty as long as it is pretty straight.
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Your spey rod will also work for overhead casts. For short casts you will only need short line so overhead or side arm casts using a short tip cast will work. You can do this with limited back space. 
As a side note, overhead casting a 15' spey rod is the best drill for developing harmony between your top and bottom hands to create a straight rod tip path and the tempo of acceleration and the stop. It uses the same movements as the forward cast of the spey anchor based/D-loop cast. Just a suggestion. 



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Poppy, I didn't mean anything was wrong with the rod, my humor got the best of me when describing the action but thank you for the advice.  Gary, yes you are so right.  I do overhead cast at times, its what the rod was designed for from what I have heard when doing research on it. Thanks for the replies, big help! [smile]
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