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justin carnecchia

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Hi any opinions on the echo tr versus dh2. Im looking at both rods in the 13ft 7wt. Nearly all use will be on the clearwater, so smaller flies and floating lines. My understanding is that a scandi line would appropriate for this although ultimately i would prefer to move to a longer line. So if any one has fished either of these rods i would love your opinion.
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Sorry im posting from phone. Let me clarify my question a bit. I have no spey experience. In my one hand casting life, faster rods typically generate higher line speeds and farther casting. From what ive read this doesn't translate to spey casting. Further it seems like an action that suits one type of line may not suit another. The dh2 had a much deeper flex and generally seemed a bit lighter. The TR seemed quite a bit stiffer "faster" and maybe a bit heavier. Is one action better suited to scandi lines and or mid belly lines? Is one action better suited to the novice? If so, is it then a rod i will outgrow? I'd rather have a rod thats a bit harder to cast at first than one I will not be happy with in 2 years. This will likely be my only chance to get a spey rod for quite a while and only because of a very good sale price. I've currently put a 7 wt Dh2 on hold for when it comes in later in the week, but would be happy to hear from ant who have cast tgese rods ir who just know more about spey than i do.
Thanks again -Justin
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The TR is faster then the Decho. The TR is recommended with the 540 scandi compact but I and many of my customers like it just fine with the 510 scandi compact. The TR works very well with a scandi compact head plus a floating poly leader for fishing the Clearwater. 

For a longer line the Gaelforce 54'-8/9 UK rated (523grns) will rock on the 7130-4 TR.

The Decho 2 is a great rod but I would choose the TR. I don't believe you will be sorry.

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justin carnecchia

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Poppy, thanks for the input. If they still have it I'll pick it up.
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At the Red Shed you can demo them both and decide for yourself which one best suits your needs. We also give an Airflo compact scandi or skagit head with the purchase of an Echo two hander. 
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Hi Justin - FWIW I was in the same boat as you (new to spey) and tested both of the rods you mentioned side by side at the Clearwater Spey Clave 2 years ago.  Both are fantastic rods for the price and hit a high enough performance mark that you won't feel that you have to upgrade after the first season (Dec is a Jedi and fishes his own model regularly from what I understand). Here's how I would summarize the two:  The TR is on the faster end of the med-fast spectrum with a progressive profile that flexes roughly 1/3 the way down the blank. Don't remember which weight heads I tossed on the rod but thought the Airflo Rage just sang on it (510 maybe). The overall weight was comfortable in hand and the action lent itself to a quicker stroke but is very forgiving when you try to muscle it. To me it screamed "I like throwing tight scandi loops at distance, but I'm no slouch at skagit either". I'm guessing it would rock with the new airflo scandi long head.

The DHII is on the slower of medium fast with a regressive profile ie strong tip/softer mid/stronger butt. It flexes into the cork with an Airflo Compact skagit 570 and FLO tips.  It screams "I'm all about the skagit, sustained anchor casts, and chucking half chickens on the end of 12 ft of T10...but I will surprise you how well I throw the Rage 510/540, intermediate polyleader and light flies in early fall". It requires a slower stroke but rewards you by doing the heavy lifting ie let the rod do the work.

To me both rods are a "heavy 7" and can handle decent sized steelhead. I was split between the two but went with the DH because a) I do all my fishing on the Salmon (Idaho) where the water is narrower but deeper and b.) I have a naturally slower, more relaxed stroke. If I start getting up to the Clearwater on a regular basis I will look at getting a TR, most likely the 8136 for a little extra reach.
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Thanks for all the great advice. I wound up going with the 7wt TR and the 510 compact scandi. It was a little spur of the moment but I couldn't pass it up at the price being offered (guessing both models are being discontinued or updated). Still hoping to get one more trip down this year so I just need to get the hang of casting it.
Thanks again. Justn
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