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justin carnecchia

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  Hi, I'm new to the forum and new to steelheading in general.  I grew up trout fishing around Missoula and have been living in Sandpoint for the past ten years or so.
  Time and money make it difficult to make the trip down to the Clearwater,  so I expect that I won't be able to get down more than 2-3 times this year.   Was supposed to go a couple weekends ago but trip got pushed back to this weekend.  My concern is looking at the weather, they're forecasting for Lewiston to be over 100deg Sun & Mon. I know the dam helps keep the water temps cool, but that's pretty hot. 
  I guess my question is will I be better off putting off my trip till it cools down a bit, or go anyway.
  Thanks for any advice,  -Justin
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I would wait a bit if you can because there will be more fish up to stinky town. As to water temp I can tell you from personal experience it is plenty cold.

Yesterday @ 1:30pm Pacific time the water temp at the Peck gauge was 50 degrees and 52 degrees @ Spaulding.

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  Thanks for the advice.  You've given me something to think about.  It could be a month or more till I have another opportunity to come down, so do I brave the heat (car has no A/C) and come anyway, or wait till there more fish in the river and the temps have cooled.
  Has the fishing been slow? I know the season hasn't hit it's peak but there should be fish, no?
  I'll have to give it some thought.
  Anyway, thanks again for the input. I'll have to stop in and say hi, whenever I finally make it down.   -Justin
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The season has barely started yet let alone hit it's peak. There is good dry line fishing through Thanksgiving and after that for those that think a sinktip is required many people just use a scandi head and a fast sink poly leader. 

There has been pretty good fishing the last two winters with pretty mild weather and not to cold water temps.

As to no AC you should be coming down before daylight so you don't need an AC then. 

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Good advise, Poppy. I completely agree.
The window is very narrow with this heat.
The fishing is not only slow, it is down right at a crawl.
The counts at Lower Granite are less than 100 a day.
A month sounds about right.
113 on my deck thermometer at this moment.

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Justin, I live in Sandpoint and guide on the Clearwater. If you ever want to chat over coffee or a beer let me know. High water season ( now) is a totally different river than when they drop it to fall flows ( mid September), which is when most people fish the Clearwater. In other words, what you fish now, likely won't fish at all or the same way in a month. Having said that, I love this early season fishery for that reason. Air temperatures don't effect the fishing but can make it uncomfortable for us humans, nor does time of day. My advice is just to go down there and fish. Imo opinion, the river fishes just as well in early September as it does in October, it just depends on the day and whether the fish are in a good mood or not. So hopefully you catch the. When they're having a good day.
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justin carnecchia

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Thanks everyone for the helpful advice.  Ended up fishing locally this weekend (well more locally),  113deg is too hot for me.  Hopefully I'll make it down in the next couple weeks.
Thanks again,  Justin
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One has to understand that the temp isn't 113 degrees all day everyday. I fished Tue. morning from just after 6:00am until 10:00am. I had my wading jacket on the whole time and was never hot. It never got really hot that day. Wed was quite a bit hotter. Fished again yesterday from 8:00am until 1:00pm and had on my jacket for the first 3 hours.

The water temp at Spaulding a little upstream from where were fishing is running 52 degrees. When one is standing up to their junk in water running at these temps one can be quite comfortable, especially during the mornings.

The catching has been slow but the river is fishing very nicely. One has to remember when chasing chrome "one cast can change your life".

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Well so far I've managed to make it down twice now, although still no success.  Was down 3 weeks and 2 weeks ago, with much of my time spent in the Cherry lane area. I'm still fishing a single hand rod so the island there breaks the river into a more manageable size, and it seemed like good water.  Looking back though, the numbers of fish crossing lower granite started to spike a few days before my last trip and I'm wondering if there weren't many fish that far up stream yet?  
Anyhow,  planning on heading back down Monday and was hoping for some input as to whether that is a good area to fish?  I'm not expecting miracles here and don't mind fishless days, but if anyone has any advice it would be much appreciated. 
Thanks, Justin
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The fish are late again this year and catching has been slow although it picked up quite a bit in the week or so. The A run fish seem to be mostly non-existent.

Don't worry about only having a single hander. There have been hundreds of steelhead caught here using a single hander and a 50' cast. The secret is find a fly that "you" like and keep casting. There is no magic fly to the fish, only to the angler and there is no magic run. It is more of a mind game then anything else. The angler has to believe that every drift is "THE ONE".

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Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong schedule but the graph that I see coming over the dam at lower granite has been well over 1000 fish per day for the last two weeks. And on September 23 24th and 25th there was almost 2500 a day coming over lower granite. Am I looking at the wrong website?
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Poppy, thanks for the helpful advice.  Sooner or later I'll get one,  I only wish I lived a little closer and could put in more time on the river.
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Dan,

You are looking at the right graph but those numbers are not that impressive. Check the 10-year average option. It has picked up some of late but Sept 1 to current is still at best around 40% of average.

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