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Michael Smith

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Recently I have been bitten by the reel bug. For some people fine rods, especially bamboo make them all weak in the knees. For me it appears to be classic or classic style reels. This makes sense, I have always been a gear head.

So, I have been thinking about this for awhile now.  While I am not in the market at this moment as  I have the reels that I need I thought  that  in the next couple of years I would like to acquire an investment or “heirloom” reel, something that will hold or increase in value that  I can hold on to and pass down when the time comes.

Obviously Bogdan is the first name that comes to mind. But I can’t see myself shelling out the kind of money that is being asked for these.  I know that Olson reels are revered but they command almost as much as Bogdans.

If you were me who would you consider?  I am not really looking for a museum piece but a solid classic style reel that is fit to use yet is something that one would want to keep.

I appreciate any opinions given.

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MS

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My bet would be on the English-made Hardy products.  I believe they have a couple of models out now.  Who know how long this production will continue.  You also might take a hard look at the Kingpin Reels.  
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Thanks Gene

Like the sound of that.
I purchased a new English made Bougle last summer. Love this reel and will definitely keep it. Also just got a MkII Cascapedia although a Korean version. I have always liked these reels and they seem to be getting hard to find. Seems like I have become a Hardy fan.
One make I keep coming back to though is Saracione. Could this possibly be what I am looking for? What about Speyco? What are the thoughts about Tim's reels long term?

MS
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I think that it would be prudent to stick with high-end English-made reels or quality bench-made North American reels like the Noel, Olson, Saracione, and Farlex.  Avoid the lower quality batch-produced American reels.  No long term appreciation in value there.
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Sounds like you're getting the bug and that's a good thing!  My experience getting into the old Click and Paul world started with a 1930's "Conquest" by J W Young.  It is the loudest thing I have ever heard.  Once up in BC I was fishing a run behind two of my buddies who were on opposite sides of the river about 150 yards below me.  Although not a huge fish, I had one just slam the fly (a Boss) and take off and the old reel really did scream as they say.  I will never forget both of them at exactly the same time turn around and look up my way as they heard it all the way down there.  And Dave yells "Hey knock off the noise up there!"

Since, I purchased a Hardy Perfect 3 1/2" Wide Salmon made in the 1930's from Jim Adams down in San Francisco (Adams Angling).    It isn't as loud but there is just something about that sound when you hook into a steelhead that can't be beat.  And, as I fish it I am constantly wondering about it's history, who had it and when and where and what kind of fishing was done with it etc.  Sure wish it could tell me it's story.  Crazy huh?  Yup. [smile]

So I guess my suggestion is to find an old Hardy.  You will never regret it.  Something your Grandkids will treasure.

Sorry for the long response..... I am going to go clean both of the reels I mentioned!
Good luck!
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Thanks Gene

Like the sound of that.
I purchased a new English made Bougle last summer. Love this reel and will definitely keep it. Also just got a MkII Cascapedia although a Korean version. I have always liked these reels and they seem to be getting hard to find. Seems like I have become a Hardy fan.
One make I keep coming back to though is Saracione. Could this possibly be what I am looking for? What about Speyco? What are the thoughts about Tim's reels long term?

MS


In my humble opinion, I think a Saracione reel would be a fine choice. I've been internally debating the same question, and Mr Saracione's reels keeping making their way to the top of the list. There still is Olson, Noel, and others to turn that list upside down.

Brian
Gene Larson

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All of the reels mentioned are good choices, but the question about appreciation remains.  If you invest twice as much at the start, the long term appreciation is less.  I know we're talking about reels that can and should be used.  But, if my grandkids aren't into fishing and they want to sell the reels to buy a violin, what will be the market?  The English-made Hardy/Kingpin/others may cost less now and sell for as much later.  While the top line American reels will cost quite a bit more now and may be more equivalent in value later.  Or not, who knows.  That is why for me, it would come down to how much I can afford to spend now and see where things go over time.  
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William Olson's bench made reels are simply the best.
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Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
It appears I have some mulling over to do. The thought of dropping a couple grand
on a reel gives me pause but like I stated originally I am looking a few years down the road 
so I do have time to think. Although with an 18-20 month wait on an Olson looks like
one does have to plan ahead.


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I agree with Brian that the Saracione is also one to look at. I personally like the MKIV better then the MarkV but they are both high end.

The Farlex is another to check out, and while you're looking many people find the Loop Classic reels to be a great choice.

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Thanks Poppy
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For Saracione I would only consider his benchmark reels for appreciation. His CNC made reels are not as scare and often you see them selling for less than new.

I don't think you can go wrong with old Perfects and anything else that is high quality and no more production.

My collection is mostly Perfects and Olsens.
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I think for what your asking , is to find a reel maker for the dollar that's a good price , then hope it goes up in value over the long haul , something you can also fish with lots and enjoy , for me and for the best bang for your buck at this time , I'd say a Farlex

Bogdans , Noel's , Olsens , doc Hermans , even old hardys , they worth allot and I think some of them will go up in value , just not much more in my opinion , when you get into that price over $2000 , allot less people looking to buy ,

Old stuff like Hardys , Dingleys , leaded Young reels , even some great Farlow reels , still some great finds to be had for the money , you can double your money on the right reel if you do some homework

If it's just one reel to buy and pass down to your kids or someone lucky , Find a correct 1912 check Hardy wide drum with round line guard , they the most sought after and best reel Hardy ever made

For every person fishing or collecting reels , I'd say more people searching for the classic old hardys , which is why they will always hold the value and only go up if you have a good correct reel , plus it's a bonus to fish it , just remember they can break and a fall or slip could give you a cracked frame and then your reel is worth a 3'rd or less of what you paid

I also still think the nice old 3 screw latch St john in leaded is a good deal for a reel , you can find mint ones still for less then $500 ,

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If it's just one reel to buy and pass down to your kids or someone lucky , Find a correct 1912 check Hardy wide drum with round line guard , they the most sought after and best reel Hardy ever made 


I concur.
to the original question. buy a reel you will fish the hell out of. and don't worry about it. if you want an investment, buy silver, gold or apple stock.
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Amen brother. The word is "Hardy".
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